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Exclusive: Colin Trevorrow Talks Jurassic World 2 and more! (Surprise Guest: J.A. Bayona!)

Hold on to your butts, and whip out the popcorn – today we have a very special episode of our Podcast, featuring director Colin Trevorrow! Colin took time out of his busy schedule to speak to us about The Book of Henry, Jurassic World, and of course, the Jurassic World sequel!

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Not only did Colin join us and talk all things Jurassic, he brought in a very special surprise guest at the end (Spoiler: Jurassic World 2 director J.A. Bayona!)

So if you’re wondering if dinosaurs will be rampaging around London, how large of a role Hawaii will play, if animatronics will be more strongly featured, or if the sequel will be scarier, what are you waiting for? Give it a listen here!

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If you’re not currently in a position to listen, don’t stress. We will be updating the article soon with all the highlights!

“It will be more suspenseful and scary. It’s just the way it’s designed; it’s the way the story plays out. I knew I wanted Bayona to direct it long before anyone ever heard that was a possibility, so the whole thing was just built around his skill set.”

“Film has become so cutthroat and competitive; it felt like an opportunity to create a situation where two directors could really collaborate. It’s rare these days, but it’s something that the directors that we admire used to do all the time—one writes and produces and the other directs, and the end result is something that’s unique to both of them. I’m in the office right now, I’ve been here every day since July working closely with J.A., listening to his instincts, and honing the script with Derek to make sure it’s something that all of us believe in.”

Jurassic World was built upon 12 years ideas from Steven Spielberg, but the sequel is fresh territory to go in whichever direction they [Colin Trevorrow and Steven Spielberg] choose.

“Jurassic World had to restart the engine. This movie has to prove it has a reason to exist”

Jurassic World 2 is “Built upon the concepts and stories that Crichton created with the novels.”

“A mistake made a long time ago just can’t be undone.” is a real world theme that plays heavily into JW2. “You can’t put it back into the box”

Dialog from the first book is in JW2. “It makes me feel like such a good writer (…) Look at me, that’s a hell of a sentence”

Crichton has the ability to make things completely bonkers feel real and motivated. That’s the goal with these movies, to make these large ideas feel part of our world.

This movie doesn’t need to be ‘bigger’. It’s not about ‘bigger better dinosaurs’ or ‘bigger action sequences’. Brings up Raptors in the Kitchen scene vs Indominus Rex Helicopter explosion, and how the simplicity of the former is just as effective – if not more.

“I think the lack of animatronics in Jurassic World had more to do with the physicality of the Indominus, the way the animal moved. It was very fast and fluid, it ran a lot, and needed to move its arms and legs and neck and tail all at once. It wasn’t a lumbering creature. We’ve written some opportunities for animatronics into [Jurassic World 2] – because it has to start at the script level—and I can definitely tell you that Bayona has the same priorities, he is all about going practical whenever possible.”

Budgetary requirements of JW also led to less animatronics. One of the rewards of success is they can make more with JW2. They will utilize the general animatronic rules of the franchise: best used when standing still, or with less complex actions.

Even when working with CG, it’s important to work with real effects as well. (For example: a model helicopter was built for JW crash.)

[ILM] are looking into using motion capture on real animals for JW2 – beyond traditional motion studies.

With JW he sometimes gave instructions to animate the Indominus like it was a animatronic

There are new dinosaurs in the movie which were real and existed. They are looking at existing paleoart, and defining the Jurassic Park version from there: there is a specific look to Stan Winston dinosaurs, and it’s important to stay true to it.

Colin is proudly ‘guilty’ of caring about the Dinosaurs as much as the people. They’re characters.

On feathered dinosaurs: Jurassic World addressed the issue of featherless dinosaurs with Dr. Wu’s speech. “Whether or not that will evolve or change over the course of the films? I cannot tell you. We will see.”

The Jurassic Park East Dock sign in Jurassic World was swapped out for the Research sign due to the latter alluding to more about the old park, further expanding the world.

“I feel like an idiot to say I did not expect it, but that’s the truth. None of us did.” Zara’s Death, Claire’s Heels. He hopes people can see his intention for the scenes, just as he can see their interpretation. “Claire wasn’t going to let uncomfortable shoes stop her from being a total badass and getting shit done”

“Zara was about surprising viewers with an unearned death (which is something we are dealing with a lot in the world now). It’s an Amblin thing… seeing something we probably shouldn’t get to see as a child

Hawaii is a primary location but not the only one. But yes, part of the story takes place in the familiar fictional territory Hawaii represents.

The movie does not take place in the UK, they’re only making the movie there. So, no dinosaurs rampaging through London.

On militarized dinosaurs in JW2 “I’m not that interested in militarized dinosaurs, at least not in practice. I liked it in theory as the pipe dream of a lunatic [Hoskins]. When that idea was first presented to me as part of an earlier script it was something that the character that ended up being Owen was for, that he supported, something that he was actively doing even at the beginning. Derek and I, one of our first reactions was ‘No if anyone’s gonna militarize raptors that’s what the bad guy does, he’s insane.'”

“Jurassic World War feels like a cartoon to me. I’d watch that cartoon with my kid, but I wouldn’t make it.” – It’s not the sequel, but don’t let that stop you from making the fun fanart!

Jurassic World 2 is about our relationship with animals, and how we share the planet with other living things. There’s mention of militarization in the sequel, but there’s also mention of open source and humans living along dinosaurs – he favors the latter for the sequels story.

On how much he had planned for the trilogy when making Jurassic World: “I knew the end. I knew where I wanted it to go.”

Kids who saw Jurassic World will be threes years older by JW2. A jump from 9 years old to 12 is huge. It’s about making the story grow up for them, and it’s why he’s bringing in a Spanish horror director.

The structure of Jurassic World was about getting bigger and bigger as the story progressed. JW2 is very inspired by the structure Jurassic Park (which had its biggest sequence in the middle and then funneled into a  series of claustrophobic and intimate scenes towards the end).

J.A. Bayona on the sequel: “I was very surprised by the story.” He likes the idea of having a lot of things you do not expect, but also remain respectful to the tradition and legacy. “There are things you really don’t expect and it is very exciting”

Jurassic World 2 does have a title, but it remains secret, and they won’t share when it’ll go public

Colin Trevorrow: “Go see A Monster Calls to understand why he’s the right guy for JW2.”

We can’t stress enough how thankful we are that Colin Trevorrow took some time out of his very busy schedule to speak with us! We ran a little longer than we expected, but thankfully he didn’t set the Raptors loose on us to see things to a swift end.

So who else is now unbelievably excited for the sequel?

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25 thoughts on “Exclusive: Colin Trevorrow Talks Jurassic World 2 and more! (Surprise Guest: J.A. Bayona!)

  1. Seemed to me like he had you confused with Jack Ewins from Jurassic Cast?! Judging by the surprise over Chris being in America, and comment ‘good to talk to you guys again’.

    1. I believe he said “again” because moments earlier I had said the same thing about “jumping right in” and it was as if we repeated ourselves. I cut that little first bit out of the interview. 🙂

      1. That could be it. Amazing interview I thought it was very revealing and sets a few things straight. I’m even more excited for this movie now.

  2. This Interview must have been the BIGGEST hype rave for you guys! So hopefully we will get some news on it as we leave October into November. SUPER EXCITED! It’s good to know we can trust COLIN rather than thinking he’s a darer and he knows what we want and what we don’t want quite frankly I think our franchise is in good hands. JW2 2018!

  3. I want to know if there’s going to be kids in the next one, seems very unlikely since we’ve had 4 films worth of Kids and only 1,4 were worthy and served purpose. It is said that having kids in the films put child-watches more glued to the screen but I don’t think it will be worth it in the next one.

  4. First and foremost, thanks Chris and Jack for this treasure. Jurassic Outpost has been my only daily pitstop for news related to the franchise that I adore since I was 12 years old (I’m about to turn 36 in a couple of months).

    This podcast was enlightening and awesome to hear to. I confess I had never listened to a podcast in my life and I was glued to every second of this long one. It was great to hear the issues straight from the horse’s mouth and, obviously, I raved over Bayona sneaking in in the last couple of minutes.

    I’m more than excited for the future of my beloved series. Without a fear of sounding cliché, I believe we, fans, have been awarded with the most passionate people to relive the fantasy that caught our eyes and seized our hearts over twenty years ago with JP. My humble opinion is that JW, despite its faults (which everything in life has), was the best sequel for JP (sorry TLW, sorry Spielberg, whom I worship). And now I have complete faith in what they’ll do with JW2, or whatever it’s gonna be called – which, by the way, I’m dying to find out!!!! Please, guys, let the cat out of the bag already!!! I was afraid they were going down the weaponized dinos route and Colin kinda calmed me down on this interview. I loved the tease that we’ll probably see more animatronics in JW2 and, especially, that it will be a more somber movie than this first one, due to Bayona’s inclinations. There was also something that Colin mentioned and that really made me jump off my chair. It was about JP having the hyped up scenes in the middle and making it more claustrophobic towards the end – probably a reference to the raptors in the kitchen scene and the nailbiting scene with Lex and Tim – and a slight hint that Bayona may probably resort to that artifice too (correct if I’m mistaken: I’m a Portuguese speaker from Brazil, so I may have gotten this part a little wrong).

    All in all, this podcast made me super crazy about June 2018. To say the least, I can’t wait for production to start, to get to know which new actors will make the cast, start getting bits and pieces of shooting pictures on social media… Anyway, I’m sure JW2 will live up to our expectations as fans.

    Once again, thank you Chris and Jack, for this interview.

    1. You’re not alone there, the direction that the story can go is all open. It’s exciting to imagine the possibilities! We’re only about three or four months away from when they’ll start filming.

  5. Excellent podcast! Im so happy they are not making military dino’s! The only question I have left is, will they keep ignoring JP2 and JP3 ? Or will they finally include references to all the movies ? I Loved JP2 and 3 (even though some people hate it) and I want the franchise to feel more connected.

  6. This is some fantastic stuff, guys. Cheers!

    This is the first time I feel somewhat optimistic about the film, aside from J.A. Bayona’s announcement as Director.

    So happy to hear Trevorrow flat-out say militarized dinosaurs will not be part of the story, aside from some mentions of it (at least, that’s what I gathered from the quotes, correct me if I’m wrong).

    “Jurassic World War feels like a cartoon to me.” “Jurassic World 2 is about our relationship with animals, and how we share the planet with other living things. There’s mention of militarization in the sequel, but there’s also mention of open source and humans living along dinosaurs – he favors the latter for the sequels story.”

    Wonderful.

    Dialogue from the first novel, the story being built around Bayona’s directing talents, more animatronics (I thought those days were over for Jurassic after World came out, so this is such a beautiful relief). To be frank, I’m still very hesitant, mainly because I don’t trust Trevorrow and Connolly as screenwriters for this franchise after what they did with World, but I’m cautiously optimistic because I hope they learned from past mistakes and it should be very interesting to see how they collaborate with Bayona. I do believe Bayona will do everything in his power to make this a genuinely good film, so here’s hoping!

    I think the only thing I disliked from this interview is Trevorrow on Claire:
    “Claire wasn’t going to let uncomfortable shoes stop her from being a total badass and getting shit done”

    I don’t think he’ll ever fully understand why a lot of people were annoyed with Claire and/or the heels, or with most of the characters in general.

      1. A heavily flawed box office hit with highly-questionable characters and interesting plot points that were executed very poorly. Obviously, it’s all subjective and down to opinion, but if you want to go there, there’s mine.

        1. I respect your opinion Gabriel but I agree with Jim. Jurassic World to me was the perfect sequel. Okay not a perfect film, sure, but “perfect” enough for me.

          Now for the sequel of JW I do want more suspense, new dinosaurs, and animatronics and it’s awesome we’re going to get that.

  7. Thank you so much for this interview. This is honestly the first time in almost one and a half years that I have felt any kind of excitement for this franchise. Jurassic World was, to me, a very underwhelming movie. It had a predictable story, clichee dialogue, unlikeable characters and over-the-top action scenes that did not fit in with the themes of the first two, to an extent three, movies. All this lead me to despise the movie and dread what the sequels might hold. The fact that Hoskins seemed to not be a single madman, but rather had the backing of InGen themselves, lead to me ‘knowing’ that the sequel would be about militarized dinosaurs. I was honestly done with the Jurassic franchise at that point. I would have watched the sequels anyway, but more out of a sense of obligation than out of passion.

    But this interview eased my mind in many regards. It’s good to hear that Trevorrow never took the militarized dinosaurs seriously and also saw the idea for what it was: the cartoonish evil plan of a cartoonish bad guy. I’m also happy to see animatronics making a (big) return. To be honest though, I did not like the animatronic Apatosaur in Jurassic World. It felt stiff and too ‘human’ in its behavior. So I like that animatronics will make a return, but only if their quality is on Stan Winston School level.

    But what has me excited the most is this line: “Jurassic World 2 is about our relationship with animals, and how we share the planet with other living things. There’s mention of militarization in the sequel, but there’s also mention of open source and humans living along dinosaurs – he favors the latter for the sequels story.” This is a theme that has rarely, if ever, been used in the franchise. We had Jurassic Park with its theme of nature not being contained, but other than a few scenes, namely the sick Triceratops and the Brachiosaurs, we didn’t have any intimate moments with these animals, only the humans adapting to the threat of the predators.
    The Lost World was about humans directly interfering with the animals for no reason other than their curiosity on one side, or for profit on the other. It had almost no scenes where the animals didn’t defend themselves for this intrusion, and showed off what could go wrong if this human/dinosaur relationship is forced too violently in the form of the San Diego Incident.
    Jurassic Park 3 rarely treated the animals as anything other than monsters or psychopaths (seriously, that Spinosaurus was way too obsessed with the humans), the scene on the river bank is the only scene showing off the beauty that dinosaurs could posses.
    Jurassic World was about humanity’s insatiable hunger for more, which led to the creation of the Indominus rex. The idea in and of itself was a good one, it’s just the execution that was lacking. But this movie also showed how NOT to do the human/dinosaur relationship in the form of the Raptor Squad. Again, this had potential. I actually thought it was quite well done, the love/hate relationship between Owen and the raptors was believable enough at first, and I liked the twist that the raptors turned on the humans, as they should (though the reason was idiotic). All the more disappointing that they went the Hollywood route of puppy eyes in the end. It would have been better if the raptors had not returned to Owen’s side. I’m not even saying that they would have had to attack or kill Owen, but it would have been better if the Raptor Squad had disappeared into the woods, leaving Owen alive only because they respected him to a point.

    The only thing I’m frustrated about is Trevorrow’s stance on the characters. It’s very clear that he cared more about the dinosaurs (and the action scenes coming with them) than about the characters. There is nothing original about any of them, one clichee cutout after another. I hope that Bayona will put more focus on that aspect in JW2. But all in all, I’m much more optimistic now than I was a year ago and am looking forward to the sequels for the first time since June 2015.

  8. Great interview! This give us a tiny, but exciting peek on what the next sequel will have. But nobody wonders about the fate of Jeep 18 and Jeep 29. The last we seen of Jeep 18 was when the Indominus Rex tried to crush Owen by ramming it to the shelf and I hope the hybrid did not destroyed one of the relics of the old park while Jeep 29 was used by the kids to get back to the Main Street. So in the next interview we should ask about the fate of the jeeps.

  9. Great interview! But no one wonders about the fate of Jeep 18 and Jeep 29. The last we seen Jeep 18 was when the Indominus Rex tried to crush Owen by ramming it to the wall while the other jeep was used by the kids to get back to the Main Street.

  10. Thank you so much for this interview. This is honestly the first time in almost one and a half years that I have felt any kind of excitement for this franchise. Jurassic World was, to me, a very underwhelming movie. It had a predictable story, clichee dialogue, unlikeable characters and over-the-top action scenes that did not fit in with the themes of the first two, to an extent three, movies. All this lead me to despise the movie and dread what the sequels might hold. The fact that Hoskins seemed to not be a single madman, but rather had the backing of InGen themselves, lead to me ‘knowing’ that the sequel would be about militarized dinosaurs. I was honestly done with the Jurassic franchise at that point. I would have watched the sequels anyway, but more out of a sense of obligation than out of passion.

    But this interview eased my mind in many regards. It’s good to hear that Trevorrow never took the militarized dinosaurs seriously and also saw the idea for what it was: the cartoonish evil plan of a cartoonish bad guy. I’m also happy to see animatronics making a (big) return. To be honest though, I did not like the animatronic Apatosaur in Jurassic World. It felt stiff and too ‘human’ in its behavior. So I like that animatronics will make a return, but only if their quality is on Stan Winston School level.

    But what has me excited the most is this line: “Jurassic World 2 is about our relationship with animals, and how we share the planet with other living things. There’s mention of militarization in the sequel, but there’s also mention of open source and humans living along dinosaurs – he favors the latter for the sequels story.” This is a theme that has rarely, if ever, been used in the franchise. We had Jurassic Park with its theme of nature not being contained, but other than a few scenes, namely the sick Triceratops and the Brachiosaurs, we didn’t have any intimate moments with these animals, only the humans adapting to the threat of the predators.
    The Lost World was about humans directly interfering with the animals for no reason other than their curiosity on one side, or for profit on the other. It had almost no scenes where the animals didn’t defend themselves for this intrusion, and showed off what could go wrong if this human/dinosaur relationship is forced too violently in the form of the San Diego Incident.
    Jurassic Park 3 rarely treated the animals as anything other than monsters or psychopaths (seriously, that Spinosaurus was way too obsessed with the humans), the scene on the river bank is the only scene showing off the beauty that dinosaurs could posses.
    Jurassic World was about humanity’s insatiable hunger for more, which led to the creation of the Indominus rex. The idea in and of itself was a good one, it’s just the execution that was lacking. But this movie also showed how NOT to do the human/dinosaur relationship in the form of the Raptor Squad. Again, this had potential. I actually thought it was quite well done, the love/hate relationship between Owen and the raptors was believable enough at first, and I liked the twist that the raptors turned on the humans, as they should (though the reason was idiotic). All the more disappointing that they went the Hollywood route of puppy eyes in the end. It would have been better if the raptors had not returned to Owen’s side. I’m not even saying that they would have had to attack or kill Owen, but it would have been better if the Raptor Squad had disappeared into the woods, leaving Owen alive only because they respected him to a point.

    The only thing I’m frustrated about is Trevorrow’s stance on the characters. It’s very clear that he cared more about the dinosaurs (and the action scenes coming with them) than about the characters. There is nothing original about any of them, one clichee cutout after another. I hope that Bayona will put more focus on that aspect in JW2. But all in all, I’m much more optimistic now than I was a year ago and am looking forward to the sequels for the first time since June 2015.

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