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Exclusive: Colin Trevorrow Shares His Experiences with ‘Fallen Kingdom’ + Talks Hopes for ‘Jurassic World 3’!

“My instinct is to break the classical language of these films a bit and plunge us into a world that feels real and naturalistic. I want to go outside into environments we’ve never seen these animals in. I’m watching a lot of Planet Earth.”

The excitement for a new Jurassic Park movie is a feeling that cannot be shaken by fans, and with Fallen Kingdom still fresh in everyone’s minds, we spoke with Jurassic World 3 director Colin Trevorrow who teased his plans for the upcoming sequel!

Along with those teases we speak about the fandom and the interactivity that Twitter can provide, Colin discusses his writing partner Emily Carmichael and what brought them together as co-writers, we talk the dinosaurs of the franchise, and Colin hints at a wealth of expanded universe content to follow in the future.

Grab your soda from the vending machine and enjoy the read, this is a good one!

When you were first approached for Jurassic Park 4, did you ever think you would be here today in the position you have with Jurassic? What lessons have you learned along the way?

It’s been a ride. Something happens around 40—you’ve lived long enough to look back and identify things about yourself that you realize are embedded pretty deep. I’ve seen patterns in my own work that have helped me understand myself a bit more. All of my films tend to be about a character who gets better, someone who is approaching life in a way that doesn’t represent their best self and then changes dramatically. Darius in Safety Not Guaranteed, Claire in Jurassic World, Susan in The Book of Henry. They’re all characters who have fallen into a pattern that needs to change, and through extraordinary circumstances they find a path to the better versions of themselves. If I’ve learned one lesson, it’s that I share something with the characters and stories I’m attracted to. I want to be the best version of myself, both as a filmmaker and as a person.

How did you meet your new writing partner on the next movie, Emily Carmichael, and what do you believe she will bring to the Jurassic franchise?

I saw a short of Emily’s called “The Hunter and the Swan Discuss Their Meeting”. I just knew immediately that I loved her brain. It’s different. Like a child who went to Harvard but still plays with toys. I brought a script of hers to Steven and we offered her a job writing a script she’s going to direct. She started going to meetings and her career took off. She worked on Pacific Rim 2 with a few other writers, then wrote The Black Hole for Disney on her own. It wasn’t hard to make the case that she should join the family. Her enthusiasm has been pretty infectious. She’s also an excellent Dungeon Master, as my kids will attest.

How involved are you with designing and choosing the dinosaurs, old and new, for each film? What is that process like, and what informs your choices? By design and definition, are there certain key elements you feel set Jurassic dinosaurs apart from others?

I’ve been lucky enough to be able to choose the dinosaurs, but Derek Connolly and JA Bayona and now Emily Carmichael will have each made contributions when it’s all said and done. It’s just a bunch of kids sitting on the floor with their toys. It’s the best part of my job, but also the hardest. You have to keep some great ones in the tank. I love the Carnotaurus and the Baryonyx, but I didn’t want to just see them in the background in Jurassic World. They deserve an entrance. So we put them on the park map, but held the reveal for the second film. The next film is even more fun because the opportunities have really opened up.

You’ve said Jurassic World 3 will have the most accurate dinosaurs yet. What exactly does that mean for a Jurassic film, feathers or otherwise, and what – if any – lessons have you learned from designing dinosaurs on the past two films?

We’re not looking to alter the dinosaurs from the previous movies. Those are established characters to me—they were made with reptilian DNA bridging the gaps in the genome and they have their own identity. But now we’re headed into a world in which the ability to clone a dinosaur is no longer exclusive to Dr. Henry Wu. That leads to innovation, and new opportunities for us to introduce species that represent the full spectrum of our knowledge.

Artwork by Simon Stålenhag – not related to Jurassic World 3

Many assume Jurassic World 3 will feature dinosaurs terrorizing cities and suburbs, and fans are often referring to properties like Godzilla and Planet of the Apes. Are these connections a fair assumption, or do you plan to keep the dinosaurs in the wilder, more untamed landscapes?

I just have no idea what would motivate dinosaurs to terrorize a city. They can’t organize. Right now we’ve got lethal predators in wild areas surrounding cities all over the world. They don’t go pack hunting for humans in urban areas. The world I get excited about is the one where it’s possible that a dinosaur might run out in front of your car on a foggy backroad, or invade your campground looking for food. A world where dinosaur interaction is unlikely but possible—the same way we watch out for bears or sharks. We hunt animals, we traffic them, we herd them, we breed them, we invade their territory and pay the price, but we don’t go to war with them. If that was the case, we’d have lost that war a long time ago.

“Jurassic World 3” or “Jurassic Park 6”? Ultimately a subtitle will replace the numbers, but is there a chance the ‘Park’ branding will return?

Emily and I call it Jurassic Park 6 because it’s fun, and that’s what it is to us. This is the conclusion of a story that began 25 years ago, and I think fans will be fired up when they see how much we’re connecting it to the source material. I know Jurassic World didn’t feel like a sequel in a traditional sense—the title change probably contributed to that—but it was. And so is this.

Will the visual style of Jurassic World 3 be influenced at all by what JA Bayona and Oscar Faura brought to the table?

JA and Oscar shot a beautiful film. If I’m being honest, I’d say they shot such a beautiful film, I’m not even looking to try and match it. They achieved something so gorgeous to look at, my instinct is to break the classical language of these films a bit and plunge us into a world that feels real and naturalistic. I want to go outside into environments we’ve never seen these animals in. I’m watching a lot of Planet Earth.

Jurassic as a brand handles itself quite differently than other mega- franchises out there – from your direct interactions with the community, to the inclusion of fans to create content like Masrani Global and the Dinosaur Protection Group. How important is that to you, and how would you say it helps Jurassic excel?

Our collaboration with the fans was something I first asked for back in 2015, and Universal was really open to it. The team delivered such a great experience with Masrani Global, we gave them a new assignment on Fallen Kingdom, and they crushed that, so we’re really going to be able to expand on that relationship with the third film. It always seemed obvious to me—who knows more about this lore than the fans? Why not just give them the keys and let them drive?

Did any fan and/or critical feedback to Jurassic World help shape your approach to writing Fallen Kingdom?

It did. We definitely took a turn into the darker side of Jurassic Park with that script. The first film was such a bright, colorful pop adventure. With Fallen Kingdom, we were looking to explore the uglier side of humanity and our cruel treatment of living creatures. But I think Bayona kept us from going too far—he embraced the darker elements, but also brought his own sense of playfulness and humor to the proceedings. When we initially wrote the dinosaur auction, we were imagining a dirty, unsavory bunch of animal traffickers huddled in a basement, trading lives for money. He turned it into the sequence you see in the film, which was more like a Sotheby’s auction for the super-wealthy. I think it played much better for kids, and was the right choice when balanced against the poor treatment of the animals we were seeing, which could have become irreparably sad. That’s the benefit of working with another director—you can see different sides of the story through their eyes.

Fan service has become a huge point of debate with larger franchise films. Striking a happy balance seems to be no easy task.

The fans keep my compass pointed in the right direction. Deep fans watch movies differently than the casual viewer, the same way critics watch films differently than the general audience. None of them are wrong. So I do a lot of listening. And every year, more dinosaur fans are born. These movies need to work simultaneously for those kids, for adults who love the old films, and for a diverse global audience—including some who didn’t even have American movies available to them when the first film came out. It’s a delicate balance. I feel like I’ve made a mix of bold choices and safe ones—hopefully once my tenure is done, the fans will look back and feel like I was a careful custodian.

Can you talk about your experience with social media? You directly engage with fans on various subjects. But amongst all that can come a lot of toxic trolling. How do you filter that?

You really can’t filter it. But when you dig deep enough into any fan’s anger, you’re going to find a deep love for the franchise they’re defending. To understand that level of passion—and sometimes furor—requires the same respect and tolerance you give to those with different belief systems than your own. But belief is no excuse for aggression toward those who don’t share your beliefs. It makes me sad to see the current state of the discourse, because the ugly rhetoric we’re throwing at each other is polarizing fandom the same way our politics is dividing us. I hope we find our balance again. I think we can.

It seems you are overseeing the greater Jurassic expanded universe, both in content and canon – is that correct? Can you talk a little about what your involvement is like with that?

Yeah, I’ve been involved since 2015, in collaboration with Steven and Frank. We’ve been working closely with Universal to build out the world and make sure that kids (and adults) who want to dig deeper have someplace to go. We’re really proud of the Mattel and LEGO toys, the console and mobile games from Frontier and Ludia, the VR experience from Felix and Paul, who are just brilliant. We just finished a two-part animated LEGO special that will air on NBC this week. All our creative partners have done awesome work. There’s a lot of things I can’t really talk about, I promise there will be no shortage of new developments in the next few years. But we’re being careful not to oversaturate. Some people just want to go see a dinosaur movie every three years, and that’s fine. Others want dinosaurs all the way down. We’re here for them, too.

Why do you think Jurassic has succeeded in making dinosaur movies work – something that would normally just become another creature feature, into something that is able to thrill and captivate audiences like the Jurassic franchise has done? Do you believe bringing that magic to life gets more difficult with each movie?

I think there’s something humbling about dinosaurs. They’re evidence that we’ve only occupied the earth for a tiny sliver of time. The line that encapsulates the whole series for me is Irrfan Khan’s moment at the beginning of Jurassic World. “Dinosaurs remind us how very small we are, how new.” Humans have only existed for 200,000 years. Dinosaurs were here in one form or another for 170 MILLION years. We act like this planet belongs to us, but we just got here. That’s the story I’m here to tell, and every choice we make is connected to it.

Now that certainly is a lot to digest! While ‘dinosaurs in war’ is an idea that’s been floated around for years, was featured in John Sayles’ Jurassic Park 4 script, and was even hinted at by a main character in Jurassic World, it’s great than Colin continues to shut this idea down in exchange for a much more realistic portrayal of wild animals in the ‘human’ world.

“The world I get excited about is the one where it’s possible that a dinosaur might run out in front of your car on a foggy backroad, or invade your campground looking for food. A world where dinosaur interaction is unlikely but possible—the same way we watch out for bears or sharks.”

Me too Colin, me too. This world would allow for the suspense and thriller aspects of Jurassic Park to return, and is going to allow us to see these dinosaurs interacting with new environments. Environments that aren’t restrained by the jungles of Isla Nublar and Isla Sorna, and instead feel much closer to home.

“My instinct is to break the classical language of these films a bit and plunge us into a world that feels real and naturalistic. I want to go outside into environments we’ve never seen these animals in.”

J.A. Bayona’s Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom ended with a number of shots showing the dinosaurs reaching cities and locations in and around California, and with the technology used to create these dinosaurs now out in the open world and potentially in the hands of large corporations that don’t have the animals best interests in mind, Jurassic World 3 could show us a much darker side to this story.

We want to say a huge thank you to Colin Trevorrow for this interview and for speaking with us! We hope you enjoyed the read and in case you missed our previous interview with the director back in 2016 you can find that here or listen to the podcast. There’s a surprise guest at the end. And that surprise guest is J.A. Bayona. Sorry to ruin the surprise. But it has been over two years since that interview, so that’s on you.

And be sure to take a listen to our brand new episode where we discuss this interview and go into detail on some of Colin’s answers:

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43 thoughts on “Exclusive: Colin Trevorrow Shares His Experiences with ‘Fallen Kingdom’ + Talks Hopes for ‘Jurassic World 3’!

  1. I hope so much that these elements will be introduced in Jurassic World 3:
    -The music;
    -The Jurassic World 3 introduction scene similar to that of Jurassic Park 3 where “Park” is replaced by “World”.
    -The return of old characters from the original trilogy of Jurassic Park played by the same actors, alongside new characters of the first episodes of Jurassic World: Allan Grant, Ellie Sattler, Tim, Alex, Ian Malcolm, Sarah Harding, Kelly and Nick Van Owen of The Lost World, Billy Brennan, and perhaps Charlie, the son of Ellie Sattler seen in JP3, and Barry of JW.
    -Blue meeting Alan Grant where the latter, at first he distrusts her but later learns to trust her and eventually team up with Blue when she asks him for help, for example to save Owen Grady.
    Alan Grant could also use his resonance chamber of a raptor seen in Jurassic Park 3, to communicate with Blue or also to call him in case he is threatened by either a predator or mischievous humans or other type of help.
    -Blue with a male raptor similar to Jurassic Park 3, where in the end they mate and have offspring.
    -I want so that Rexy (or other tyrannosaur as Junior, young tyrannosaurus Lost World Jurassic Park) to take revenge against the Spinosaurus JP3 and win the fight against this Spino. And after defeating the spinosaurus, he roars like at the final stage of Jurassic Park or at the end of Jurassic World
    But most importantly, no t-rex dies in Jurassic World 3, not even Rexy if it appears. Similarly no t-rex is defeated by another carnivorous dinosaur such as giganotosaurus.
    -The appearance of suchomimus, pyroraptor, Deinonychus, Utahraptor, Postosuchus, Tarbosaurus, Deinosuchus, Sarcosuchus or purussaurus, and brachiosaurus in a similar scene at
    Mosasaur attacking and killing the whalers.
    -I will not be against a fight between the megalodon and the mosasaur, where the latter will come out victorious.

    1. I agree with everything you said except the first half of the third to last bullet point. If a fight were to happen, id rather it be against a new spinosaurus. Then spino fans will have theur jp3 spino and rex fans will have rexy, with both sides killing A spino/ trex but not THE jp3 spino/rexy. Also, having a more scientifically accurate spino would fall on line with Trevarrows goal for having more realistic dinos in the film. It would also prove that the jp3 spino was heavily altered as the new spinosaurus would look much different than the one in jp3, not to mention it would show the new generation that a normal spino stands no chance against a more accurate trex. Personally though, id rather have no rematch at all, avoiding all the controversy, and instead start a new rivalry, like dilo vs raptor, a highly requested and hinted at fight.
      I also love how you included the more amphibious creatures such as postosuchus. I would love to have a swamp scene in which a swat team or recapture team enters a foggy bayou (i think thats how it is spelled) with either postosuchus or kaprosuchus and, in a callback to the lost world, they are picked off one by one quickly and quietly with the audience just hearing a splash and their flashlight beams dissappear. I think that would be AWSOME. Recapture that sense of fear and sense of helplessness that fallen kingdom promised but never really delivered.

      1. We NEED to stop that T.rex-VS-Spino stuff
        Why? The JP spino won in a fair fight, the JP rexes DOESNT HAVE that powerful bone breaking jaw muscles like a real tyrannosaur had but only a flap of thin skin!
        JP mutant spino (which confirmed to be an indominus like superhybrid) won in a fair fight.
        That would be a different story with a real spino and a real rex… but keep in mind these are not fighting monsters but once living animals.

        1. No confirmation of the Spino being a super hybrid like the Indominus anywhere. If you can find something that actually says that, please point me to go it. Not just “the DPG article says it.” It doesn’t in any specific or confirmed way, and Jack Ewins, who helped write it, also confirmed it was made ambiguous and not concrete. It’s cool if you believe that, but if you’re trying to say it’s fact, I must ask to see the evidence.

          1. it was on one of the Masarani websites but the sites no longer up. there was a short snouted spinosaurus in the kenner toyline. it’s not that impossible to think that they keep tweeking the spino design since ALL the dinosaurs are hybrids to a point.

          2. I love how everyone thinks “indominus” when they hear dna alterations. No, let me say JP3 spino was NOT like indominus. Some people make it sound like it is however. Both the DPG and Masrani Global mention the spinosaurus in gebetic tests, but its not the combination of dinosaur DNA. Lets look at it by thinking of Jurassic World Evolution. The JP3 spino was tested on in a way to push the bpundaries of how much dna can be altered with ANIMAL DNA. So think of jp3 spino as a fully modified genome in jurassic world evolution. It is not a super hybrid, like indominus, but it is probably the most altered in DNA by using OTHER ANIMALS, i.e. croc dna, frog dna, lizard dna, snake dna, so on and so fourth. Seeing how much the alteration of DNA could change the dinoasur itself gave Wu the idea of combining dinosaur DNA. Besides Global and the DPG, we have no othwr canon info on the spino, but my conclusion is mostly based off of common sense if you read between the lines well enough. And our current version of the spinosaurus DOES exist in the JP universe as seen with the Spinosaurus skeleton on mainstreet. Hencefourthh, the differences between the model and jp3 spinosaurus can most defidintely be explained by JP3’s DNA alterations.

    2. I understand your other points but I’m Getting really tired of this Trex vs spino bullshit it’s the most whiny crap I’ve ever seen. A rematch won’t fix anything it’s just overly cliche fannservice that adds fuel to the flame of a ridiculous controversy that’s been going on for almost 20 years. Yeah no I’d like an actually decent plot for this next movie that ends the franchise with the dignity it deserves.

  2. Colin Trevorrow clearly has the right ideas for the films but cannot translate them to the script. He needs to work with a more seasoned writer, who understands what Jurassic Park can be for modern audiences.

    1. I completely agree with that. In this interview, you get the idea that he’s the perfect man to make a Jurassic movie. Fallen kingdom showed (for me at least) the exact opposite, which is a real shame.

  3. Good news about this not turning into another Planet of the Apes. It would not feel like Jurassic Park/World going that route.

  4. Jurassic World was a flawed but enjoyable film but Fallen Kingdom shows Jurassic World was a fluke, it tried to address the issues of the first without truly understanding them, and made a horrible mess of a script.

    The ideas are there, but they really need new writing talent, this is the first time I haven’t been excited for a future Jurassic Park movie.

  5. I was so scared that the producers of these films may turn them into some Ape Planet or Godzilla nonsense, thus irreparably ruining the franchise. I am glad that the basement dwellers are being ignored.

    Still though… Need a little in-film closure on Sorna.

  6. Fallen Kingdom was so fucking bad I really can’t muster any enthusiasm for this.

    Trevorrow must be the ultimate bullshit artist. He says all the right things, then creates something completely opposite and out of touch.

  7. The comenta here are right. Great ideas, bad execution. I loved Fallen Kingdom, I truly loved it but I have to recognized pretty much of the film could had been made better. Anyway the only excuse I could give is the running time. Maybe isn’t long enough to execute properly the idea

  8. I don’t think you guys get enough thanks and appreciation for all you do! So here’s me throwing another “thank you” into the ring. This was a great article/interview. It’s the quality content I’ve come to expect from you guys. Well done! 🙂

  9. The idea of someone accidentally hitting a dinosaur as it runs across a dark country road, and that dinosaur then attacking the driver and passengers, has so much potential. I love that this is his approach to the concept of dinosaurs on the mainland, as opposed to large-scale attacks in a city.

    However, I have ZERO trust in Trevorrow’s ability to write and direct a competent film, let alone an intelligent Jurassic Park chapter. (Why are they putting him back in the director’s chair when they had BAYONA?! Do they not have eyes? Fallen Kingdom may have been awful, thanks to Trevorrow’s script, but it looked stunning.) He says all the right things and comes up with some great concepts, but none of it shows in the actual delivery. In fact, it seems like he intentionally ignores everything he says while writing the script, and goes in a completely different direction. Jurassic World was bland and forgettable, and Fallen Kingdom was downright insulting.

    At this point, the *only* thing that will get me in a theater seat is if Laura Dern and Jeff Goldblum come back in significant roles, or if he listens to the rampant criticism and actually steps up his game. Otherwise, I’ll skip it at the cinema like I did Fallen Kingdom. Considering both films have made over a billion dollars each, I can’t imagine he’ll feel too compelled to change his approach now, and that’s a shame. I would love for the guy to prove me wrong, however, because I’m dying to have some goddamn excitement for a Jurassic Park film again. Like, I don’t even own Jurassic World or Fallen Kingdom, because I can’t see myself watching them again. Younger me would never freaking believe that.

  10. Thanks for bringing us this interview with Colin. Feels nice to know he has all the right ideas. I hope it turns out to be a much better film than ‘Fallen Kingdom.’ If executed well, it could be the best film in the franchise yet. Nature is a great teacher and I’m glad Colin is taking notes from her.
    I also hope the cinematography returns to the grounded and naturalistic feel of the first three films.
    Would be great if Colin uses those IMAX 70mm film (not digital) cameras finally, with the full frame 1.43:1 aspect ratio. The Jurassic Park franchise deserves real IMAX film.

  11. I really want to thank Mr. Trevorrow for his idea contributions to the franchise. Despite the new movies falling short at some parts, the ideas that are integral to how Jurassic Park is such an endearing story always need to be at the center of the franchise which Jurassic Park 3 deviated from in favor of an overly simplified popcorn plot. While there are some flaws still present, the franchise once again has a direction worth curiosity.

    Once more, thank you, Colin.

  12. My main problem is that recent directors, inlcuding Trevorrow, don’t seem to understand that being on on Island — that is, in remote, unfamiliair, and bounded place — is part of what makes JP so exiting. You have your new sanctuary island and not much has been explained about it, use it!

    The JP movies are supposed to have, to some extent, a mysterious, adventurous and scientific atmosphere. Bringing dino’s to suburbs and foggy roads and featuring encounters with ‘normal’ people throughout the film would make it more of a generic SF movie and less of a JP sequel.

  13. I am never not going to be at the theaters for a JP/W movie, even though I understand the frustration some – most? – of the die-hard fans (well, seemly not so die-hard any longer) are having. I agree that FK has deviated a lot from what I imagined it would be, or from what the franchise “seems” to be. At least, I praise the new “owners” of the franchise for trying to build a trilogy with a coherent follow-up plan between one movie and the other, as one of our commentators here nicely put. JP3 seemed too much detached from the previous two films, in my humble and uneducated opinion, and that remains the reason why it’s still the sequel I hate the most. I simply can’t stand it. I feel sorry for it whenever I’m close to someone watching it.

    That said, I still have expectations for JW3. I think there are lots of unused scenes they could’ve used from the books, which they always overlook, that would look great on the screen. Honestly, I have no idea of what could be done to improve the atmosphere, the setting, the plot and everyhting else. I’m kind of the movie goer that wants to be surprised and thrilled by the movie and, to be honest, if I come to think of it, I don’t envy Trevorrow’s position – or any other screenplay writer and director – because I really don’t see where else JP/W can go and remain fresh, intelligent, instigating and thrilling.

    1. You make some good points but its unfair to paint this as a old fan vs new fan thing. Fallen Kingdom just wasn’t a good movie even if it did look really nice. It was just a messy script with uninteresting characters poor story arcs and awful pacing. If it was a good film but different than Jurassic park people wouldnt be so upset I think. I didnt see jurassic park until after I saw jurassic world!

      1. Hand-to-heart I’m honestly sorry, but did I come across as polarizing the fandom as old fan vs new fan? I didn’t mean to. I read and re-read my post and didn’t find anything that could be construed that way. I was really at a loss here. Honestly, I don’t mean disrespect. I just didn’t get your point of view (that is, if you believe it was “unfair of me to paint this as an old vs new fan thing”, I must have misled you guys).

  14. As a kid, I think FK was a good movie, not really paying attention to the script, but reading these opens my eyes a little bit. I hope JP6/JW3 has some hardcore badbutt dino vs dino scenes, and maybe even another dennis nedry scene. But, my main hope is just to see Alan Grant again.

  15. Let’s face it. If these new films didn’t have the ‘Jurassic’ title and used poor CGI, they’d be laughable piles of garbage sitting next to Sharknado or the latest Gatorsaurus vs Octoshark DVDs in some video store about to shut down due to bad business…

    The scripts were GARBAGE! Pure GARBAGE!

  16. What truly disturbs me though are those who complain to this day about Zara’s death. How they complain that ‘she didn’t deserve it’. My God. As if one must earn their death… The most realistic part of JW was Zara’s death. It showed the audience real life. In that nature, violence, suffering and death are indiscriminate. No one is safe.

    Yet some throwbacks demand that these movies must follow a particular line of predictability. That they must not become too real… While at the same time complaining that every Dinosaur isn’t a fluffy Chicken… Just another reason to have no hope for humanity.

  17. Please don’t change Jurassic park please keep the idmoumas rex and indoraptor keep it how it it Jurassic park just think Jurassic park how like we found dinosaurs they found a new dinosaur and give it a chance before u change it

  18. I Would Like To See A New Pair of T-Rex in The up coming Sequel of Jurassic Park. And I would like to see the old T-Rex family in it too especially the Male T-Rex because he was the star of the movie in the lost world. More focus on original Dinosaurs. More realistic theme would also be a good Idea.

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